You Don’t Have to Choose Between Fat Loss and Strength (Breaking the 300 Pound Barrier) | Ep 199
Have you ever felt like you're stuck between conflicting fitness goals? Maybe you're trying to drop fat while increasing strength or lean out while building muscle. What if you didn't have to choose?
In this episode, Philip (@witsandweights) jumps into a real conversation with Jazz, a powerlifter just eight weeks from competition struggling to break through a scale weight barrier without sacrificing performance. They discuss setting realistic goals, prioritizing what really matters, and crafting a plan that lets Jazz chase multiple objectives simultaneously.
Learn how periodizing your nutrition could be the game-changer you didn't know you needed.
Jazz Young, the guest on this episode, is a dedicated powerlifter preparing for his first competition. Facing the typical weight loss versus performance dilemma, Jazz sought Philip's expertise to navigate his nutrition and training. With Philip’s guidance, Jazz explores realistic and sustainable strategies to meet his dual goals, providing valuable insights for anyone in a similar situation.
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Today, you’ll learn all about:
2:21 Jazz shares his goals and challenges
3:22 Discussing weight class expectations
6:30 Nutrition, meals, and body composition
10:30 Analyzing current nutrition and protein intake
14:18 Planning weight loss before competition
19:29 Conclusion and next steps for Jazz
22:04 Outro
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Episode summary:
Can you successfully drop weight while maintaining muscle and strength? This episode of Wits and Weights explores this challenge through the journey of Jazz, a 300-pound powerlifter preparing for his first competition in just eight weeks. The episode dives deep into balancing conflicting fitness goals, setting realistic expectations, and discovering strategic middle ground with periodized nutrition. This episode is a must-listen for anyone juggling multiple fitness aspirations, whether you're an athlete or on a personal fitness journey.
The episode begins by addressing the common challenge of pursuing conflicting fitness goals, such as losing weight while maintaining strength, especially in powerlifting. Jazz, who is eight weeks away from his first competition, faces the dilemma of dropping weight without sacrificing muscle and strength. The host, Philip Pape, explores the importance of setting realistic goals, prioritizing key objectives, and uncovering a third option through periodized nutrition. This approach offers a strategic way to balance multiple fitness goals, providing insights that can apply to anyone facing similar challenges.
Nutrition is a cornerstone of any fitness plan, but it becomes even more critical when prepping for a competition. The episode dives into the essentials of maintaining consistent nutrition, setting achievable weight loss goals, and managing meal timing amidst a hectic lifestyle. Key topics include hitting high protein targets and incorporating practical meal strategies despite a busy schedule. Jazz shares his typical meal compositions, such as a protein-rich breakfast and dinner, and the challenges of hitting high protein targets. The conversation also addresses the importance of protein in managing hunger and its role in maintaining muscle during a cut.
The host emphasizes the need for realistic short-term goals, such as reaching 295 pounds, which balances the dual objectives of competing effectively and achieving a personal milestone of being under 300 pounds. Jazz's journey highlights the importance of periodized nutrition, a strategy that allows for a more flexible approach to achieving fitness goals. This method involves cycling through different phases of eating and training to optimize performance and recovery.
One of the critical insights from the episode is the importance of maintaining consistent nutrition leading up to the event. This includes avoiding drastic dietary changes and ensuring adequate energy intake. Jazz discusses the practicality of meal timing and the challenges of incorporating additional snacks or protein shakes despite a busy schedule. The goal is to ensure optimal performance while continuing to pursue gradual weight loss.
The episode also explores the intricacies of meal planning and protein intake for a competitive powerlifter aiming to balance weight loss and strength retention. Jazz shares his typical meal compositions, including a protein-rich breakfast and dinner, and the challenges of hitting high protein targets. The conversation shifts to strategic planning for an upcoming competition, considering whether to continue an aggressive weight cut or to maintain current weight to preserve strength.
Listeners are encouraged to take advantage of a free 15-minute rapid nutrition assessment to uncover what's holding them back and create a three-step action plan for results in the next 90 days. By scheduling a call through the provided link, listeners can gain clarity and actionable steps without any sales pitches or mentions of coaching services. This personalized approach helps identify specific resources and actions to elevate progress.
In summary, this episode provides a comprehensive guide to balancing weight loss and strength retention, particularly for powerlifters. It emphasizes the importance of periodized nutrition, realistic goal setting, and strategic meal planning. Jazz's journey offers valuable insights and practical tips for anyone facing similar challenges. Whether you're a competitive athlete or someone on a personal fitness journey, this episode will help you navigate conflicting fitness goals and achieve your dual fitness aspirations.
Overall, this episode is packed with actionable tips and strategies for balancing weight loss and strength retention. Jazz's journey serves as a testament to the effectiveness of periodized nutrition and realistic goal setting. Listeners are encouraged to take advantage of the free 15-minute rapid nutrition assessment to uncover what's holding them back and create a personalized action plan for the next 90 days. By following the insights and strategies discussed in this episode, anyone can unlock their full fitness potential and achieve their dual fitness goals.
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Transcript
Philip Pape 00:00
I ever feel like you're chasing two conflicting goals? Maybe you want to drop some fat but also increase your strength, or perhaps you're trying to lean out while building muscle. What if I told you that with the right approach, you don't always have to choose. In this episode, I'm pulling back the curtain on a recent conversation I had with jazz, a power lifter, just eight weeks out from competition, jazz was facing a dilemma I see all the time, how to break through a scale weight barrier to get a mental win without compromising his performance. We're diving into setting realistic goals, prioritizing what really matters, and creating a plan that allows you to pursue seemingly conflicting objectives, you'll learn why sometimes there's a third option you haven't considered, and how the secret may lie in periodizing your nutrition, whether you're a power lifter like jazz a weekend warrior, or just someone trying to balance multiple fitness goals, this Episode should give you the confidence to eliminate any frustration when you're being pulled in two different directions.
Philip Pape 01:11
Welcome to wits end weights, the podcast that blends evidence and engineering to help you build smart, efficient systems to achieve your dream physique. I'm your host, Philip pape, and today we're diving into a topic that resonates with so many of us, how to navigate seemingly conflicting fitness goals, hearing a recording of one of my free 15 minute rapid nutrition assessments, a 300 pound power lifter who's eight weeks out his very first competition, he is torn between losing more weight to get under 300 pounds, and maintaining his muscle and strength. Join the call, thinking that he had two options, and we uncovered a surprising third option. So you're trying to build muscle, lose fat, body recomp prep for an event more than one of these at the same time learn a smart and efficient way to do it all right? Jazz, what is going on? Man,
Jazz Young 02:03
hey, what's going on?
Philip Pape 02:06
you as well? No, like, in person, yeah, in person, virtually, in person. It's funny what we call in person these days, right? But Yes, exactly, even though you're a few hours down in Philly and I'm up here in Connecticut, you
Jazz Young 02:18
will meet someday, yeah, probably, I've been in Connecticut like
Philip Pape 02:21
once, yeah, yeah, cool. So, just so the listener knows what we're doing here, this is a 15 minute rapid nutrition assessment, something I just started doing recently. It's going to be fast paced. And the goal here is to help you figure out what's one thing you should prioritize, one thing holding you back, and then maybe a few steps that you can get results with in the short term. I do know a little bit about what's going on with you, but I'm going on with you, but I'm gonna assume that I don't. So first big question for you is, why did you reach out to me? What are you trying to get done here with when it comes to your nutrition, your big goal right now?
Jazz Young 02:52
So my big goal is maintaining strength. I'm about eight weeks out from my first powerlifting competition, so I do want to shut some pounds I don't have, necessarily. I did have a goal week, but I'm not necessarily going to hit that with the amount of time that I have. But I would like to come in a little lighter for this first beat, just to give myself a goal. But I also want to, you know, still hit some big lifts on the platform when I do go out there, so maintaining muscle and just literally, some body fat weight competition. Thanks,
Philip Pape 03:25
man. Congratulations. By the way, on the urge to do that of powerlifting me at all. It's great. And I've been following you, you know, been following you, and you're a strong guy. I mean, like, when we get in some numbers here, and people will see, like, You're a big, strong guy. So
Jazz Young 03:38
could see that for eight weeks out.
Philip Pape 03:41
If you don't mind sharing, how much do you weigh? What weight class are you in?
Jazz Young 03:44
So when I got on the scale recently, I was three, oh 1.6 so I float in between about 298, and 301 for the most part, like average weekly body weight. And what's the weight class? When I signed up, it was for 275 so that would be the weight class. Don't know if I'll get there, but I can always change it for my first meet, the first meet, I don't necessarily need a weight class. That's
Philip Pape 04:11
good. And that's exactly what I was trying to get at here, right? Because people are listening like, okay, they have a specific event. If they have, uh, you know, even if you want to have a wedding, and you're trying to get down to a certain number. It's realistic expectations, and also it's important to you, right? Is it getting nice, big numbers and feeling good and like getting through it and done, or is it, you know, trying to fine tune every little thing get into the weight class, right? Guessing it's the former.
Jazz Young 04:36
Yeah, I want to lose some weight, but I'm not really concerned about getting into the weight class. The first one is just to get the first one out the way, and then I'll be concentrated on weight class, and it's like after that. But I still want to, you know, continue on losing
Philip Pape 04:51
Okay, so we're talking 25 pounds maybe, maybe you can get there eight weeks. Does that come out to three pounds a week, which your size is like exactly 1% a week. That's if you did it every single week right up until the competition, as you know, may not be super helpful for getting the best performance possible. Yeah. Okay, so, because we can talk about things like, let me ask you, you got a tapering plan coming up for your training? You have, you're working with a coach right for the training side.
Jazz Young 05:21
Okay, yes.
Philip Pape 05:22
Have you thought about the nutrition beyond just what you've already been doing in terms of prep the week leading up to it, and the meat day itself?
Jazz Young 05:31
Not necessarily, like that far out, just mainly the nutrition leading up to it. I know probably about two weeks out, I'm trying to sit at wherever I wind up, week to two weeks out, just trying to hover there. So I don't, you know, do too much going into the competition. Yeah,
Philip Pape 05:50
for sure. And I'm a big fan of, like, leading up to anything, even if it's an endurance race like a marathon. Want to keep things as stable as possible. Don't change what you're eating. Insert any supplements, you know, add a whole bunch of fiber, because that can mess with your digestive tract. All that stuff at the same time. You also don't want to be like under fed and under energy that period. So there's, there's a shift that we could make right where you could do a little carb loading not too far ahead of the meat, like three days ahead of the meat, the carb loading could be as simple as swapping out some protein for some more carbs. No, doesn't have to be like again, not like a runner who has to just 10 grams per pound of carbs or whatever. So, so what is your current I'm getting ahead of myself here, as usual, but what is your current nutrition look like? And what is it that you're trying to figure out that maybe isn't working, or you're just not sure of going forward.
Jazz Young 06:44
So finally, is much protein I'm eating, like, I'll use back profector. And it's like, Hey, I picked high for the protein. So saying like 219 grams of protein, which is a lot of protein, even for a big guy like myself. So hitting that goal is kind of challenging for me, and my biggest thing is I like the snack, and then my work schedule is three to 11 o'clock at night, so sometimes I'll come home and still be hungry because I'm at work and tail end of the day. So
Philip Pape 07:22
your protein's 220 you feel like it's high, and that's about point seven grams per pound of body weight. But listening to doing the math, they're familiar with the range we say like point seven to one gram per pound. But add some nuance to target body weight. But not only that, also based on lean mass. Originally, it's based on lean mass. The bigger you are. It doesn't scale linearly, right? So you have any idea, like your body composition roughly
Jazz Young 07:50
a DEXA scan, but I don't know any in my area, so, and it's not
Philip Pape 07:56
super important right now. It's just like, if you had a rough number of body fat to muscle, you can kind of say, Okay, this is how much lean mass I have, therefore this is how much protein be appropriate. But we forget about all that. We don't need to overcomplicate it. The 220 it's funny, because any guy over 200 pounds, I'd be like, you want to eat 200 grams of protein, at least no matter who you are being. 320 doesn't sound super high to me, but from a practical perspective, saying that it's difficult get that in, right? Yeah, okay. What does your meal timing look like right now? Like, how many meals a day? They all have protein. What sources of protein
Jazz Young 08:35
I usually eat after I come from the gym, I'll eat like, some carbs, like rice cakes before I go to the gym, and just some Gatorade, because I wake up, like eight, nine o'clock, and I head straight to the gym pretty much. And then when I come home, I typically eat turkey bacon, some eggs, maybe a little cheese, some time to time, but, and that's usually like 12 o'clock, 12 to one o'clock, and then next time I'll eat will be at four o'clock, like an hour after my work, shit. And then like six dinner. So yeah, it's like dinner. So like four minutes, like a pre post workout,
Philip Pape 09:18
mid afternoon or late afternoon, and then dinner. Okay, have you tried? Have you tried? Or are you able to with your schedule, adding in another snack?
Jazz Young 09:27
A protein shake would be fun, but because I get home from the gym at like, 12 o'clock, I eat, and then I leave at two and I'm not really hungry, and then taking protein powder to work isn't like the most convenient thing for me, so I've done that before, but I don't have, like, my blender and stuff that I have at home instead of just shaking it out.
Carol 09:51
Before I started working with Philip, I had been trying to lose weight and was really struggling with consistency, but from the very beginning, Philip took the time to listen to me and understand my goals. He taught me the importance of fueling my body with the right foods to optimize my training in the gym, and I lost 20 pounds. More importantly, I gained self confidence. What sets Philip apart is the personal connection. He supported and encouraged me every step of the way. So if you're looking for a coach who cares about your journey as much as you do, I highly recommend Philippa.
Philip Pape 10:32
All right, cool. No. And again, we don't have to shoehorn it into like meal frequency. I just always ask that question, because some people have an opportunity on the table to just get an extra meal in. Maybe it's earlier in the maybe it's in the morning, maybe it's later at night, but not too close to bedtime. So you told me like your post workout has freaky baking, eggs,
Jazz Young 10:50
cheese. How much fat are you getting in your diet? Roughly about, okay, macro factor, it was probably about anywhere from 80 to 100 grams, roughly that what you're actually getting. That's your target. What target is?
Philip Pape 11:07
Okay? What are you actually consuming based on your log, based on my log, probably about 80. Oh, okay, so that's reasonable, all right, because when I heard turkey bacon, eggs, cheese, I'm thinking, Okay, you have some room to maybe clean out some of the foods to get more protein and less fat, and then it's the same amount of food. You know, doesn't sound like too much of that's going on when you have lunch. When you have dinner, these, you know, meats and vegetables and some starch, for the most part, they
Jazz Young 11:31
look like, yeah, so the first meal is usually like some stir fry steak with rice, and then my last meal is usually just like a protein and a veggie. Okay,
Philip Pape 11:46
yeah, love this stir fry, steak. Man, make me hungry. Yeah, stuff,
Jazz Young 11:51
it's my go to No. That's
Philip Pape 11:54
great. I love it. And the fat sounds reasonable. So when you say the protein's high at 220 are you actually hitting that number, and it's just like, feels like enforcing it you're
Jazz Young 12:03
not hitting the number. I plug in my this my lunch and what I'm gonna eat for dinner, like the protein source, that's the first thing. I plug in, the macro factor. It'll have me at like, one. And I'm like, Oh, I still got 70 more to go, and I'll get the yogurts, like, Greek yogurt, the oikos, yeah, would you like 15 grams? But I can't eat four of them. A Destiny piece.
Philip Pape 12:33
You know, it's funny, I have that same breath, oh, it goes zero, right? And you put it in a bowl, and you're like, I'm up to, like, 150 grams. I'm up to 200 grams, and that's only, like 150 Cal. 50 calories, a pretty good protein, dense source of food there. But yeah, you're right. It kind of fills you up. You're saying you're not really hitting 220 right? No, no,
Jazz Young 12:52
I'm probably getting closer to about where from 170 to 190 Okay, some days I do get the protein, but it's few and far between.
Philip Pape 13:05
All right, did you say earlier, you you're getting hungry, some hunger, yeah, towards
Jazz Young 13:10
towards the end of the of my work shift, okay, I'll eat my last meal at about six, seven o'clock. Yeah.
Philip Pape 13:17
Protein could definitely help with hunger, right? But, before we get to that, do you have your gold macro factor currently set to lose at a
Jazz Young 13:25
certain rate, like two pounds a week? Yeah, it's two pounds a week.
Philip Pape 13:29
Two pounds a week, all right, so you know for a fact that that rate you're not going to hit the 275 unless you plan to do some water manipulation. You don't plan on that do Okay, good. You shouldn't do that at a year level, doing your fifth competition, maybe
Jazz Young 13:44
you look into that. That's for another competition. Yeah, exactly.
Philip Pape 13:48
So you resigned to that of not hitting the weight class, or is part of this conversation, like, Hey, can I speed it up more aggressively and hold on to my strength and muscle
Jazz Young 13:59
a little bit of both? Okay? Like, maybe speed it up a little bit. Like, main thing is just, I don't want to lose the strength going into the competition. Strength is fine, but if I don't get to the weight class, I'm resigned with fine with that, even my coaches, like, we shouldn't really press for that right now. So okay, and
Philip Pape 14:20
you're nowhere near to getting what's the next weight class? 275, would
Jazz Young 14:24
be the next the weight class I signed up for? No, I mean, up. Oh, up. Go eat. Okay, all right, yeah,
Philip Pape 14:31
yeah. Because I mean, where I'm coming at this, and you tell me, if I'm wrong, it's like, got your short term goal, and you've got your long term goal. I imagine your long term goal has some health goals in there, and some, you know, body composition goals, and we could talk about that, you know, to get to the 90 days past the competition up to the next year, that's a different thing. The short term, you're pretty much not going to make the weight class at this point, unless you go 1.2% a week straight on for the next six weeks, like a very aggressive cut, you're going to just feel terrible and then, like, your lifts are gonna drop and all that. Why not just toss that out the window altogether right now and just maintain, okay, maintain, like, get off the cut all together, right? And maintain your weight. Since you're still you're not close to the next weight class, and at risk of that, you could keep those glycogen stores filled, like, you know, up your carbs have more calories to work with, which will make it easier to hit your protein lift should, like, keep going up. I would imagine clean there's only upside to doing it that way. You're kind of, if you're not going to hit the lower weight class, why even that trade off? Yeah,
Jazz Young 15:35
and I was thinking that too, yeah. But sometimes we just need somebody else to confirm it for us. Okay,
Philip Pape 15:43
I should just ask you this. Why do you want to lose some weight before that?
Jazz Young 15:46
It's just a goal. Like, if I didn't get the 275 like I said, I was our rooms on that, but if I can get the 290 and sit there, I'm perfectly fine with that too. But let's
Philip Pape 15:59
dig in a little bit. Why is that the goal now, knowing that you have another goal in parallel, of smasher lifts on a power lifting me,
Jazz Young 16:07
I've been over 300 pounds for a long time, so, okay, under 300 pounds and competing in the power lift in me compared to where I started, would be fantastic.
Philip Pape 16:17
Okay, all right, I like it. I'm glad I asked. So that's cool, if you want to be like, the guy who's you kind of accomplish these two goals at the same time, and you could be super proud of that, right? And shout to the world, like, Hey, I got under 300 and I competed, and I got these massive numbers on my list. They're sitting right over 300 so why don't we make the goal? Like, 295, okay, you know, or two. You know what I'm saying? Like, just the psychological break, right? Like it's trade offs. It's all trade offs. You know that there's a trade off with everything. So, yeah, if the goal is 295 you can do that in the next, like, two or three weeks, easy, right? And at the rate you're already going, you should be there within a few weeks. Yeah, right, assuming you've been pretty consistent hitting the calories, yeah.
Jazz Young 17:00
So these last couple weeks, I've just been kind of hovering at cracking so much, but just making sure I stayed around the 300 pound mark. So these last eight weeks, I definitely want to start tracking so I can get to sub 300 since you
Philip Pape 17:17
kind of know what your maintenance is, just what calories right now,
Jazz Young 17:22
I think like 3500 rocky could
Philip Pape 17:26
see that. Okay, 3500 makes sense. What's your step count daily? Ish, 1000 steps. Oh, so you get a lot of steps? Okay, cool, yeah, I walk around a lot at work. That's great. That's really good, really listening. That's awesome. What jazz is doing here,
Jazz Young 17:40
all this job, so I make myself walk around the shop and
Philip Pape 17:44
stuff like that. Awesome. So 500 calories could then go into 1000 calorie deficit would get you. 1000 calorie deficit would get you two pounds a week. You could eat around 2500 calories for a couple weeks. Kind of feel it to you, okay, yeah. And then get in there around 298 297 and kind of decide, okay, I can push to 295 I mean, what happen is, when you get back out of that cut, gonna pop up a bit back because of the fluid. You want to get a little extra buffer there. And that leaves you a good five, six weeks to get back to maintenance and just stay there, get filled up, hit the lifts and everything. The only other thing that comes to mind is, are you doing a test day before then, like a test or anything like that?
Jazz Young 18:33
I thought I know of I would have to check my coaching and see what He has planned. But he typically doesn't do that. He wants all your energy on the meat day. I
Philip Pape 18:45
got it you were, I would say you could have an opportunity to do like a meat nutrition test day as well. I mean, I have to overcomplicate it, like, do what you normally do leading up to it, the carbs a few days ahead of time, a bit then, no, do your pre workout like you normally would, which is a, you know, sounds like you do the rice cakes and the protein, you probably want a bigger meal a few hours before the meat, versus what you normally do when going to the gym. And then the rice cakes. Take some fruit, take energy bars, Powerade, whatever you're kind of used to to getting really simple carbs, right? Not complex carbs. You don't want too much fat, too much complex or too much fiber early on, on that day, right? This is a separate thing we could talk about that offline, like, later and change too much, like, don't start taking a new supplement or anything like that. That can throw you off. Here's the plan, right? Step one, do a cut at two to three pounds a week for the next few weeks. Step two, go back to maintenance, right? And then step three, plan for, like, the pre meat nutrition to kind of fill up those glycogen stores. And then after that, we could talk about, okay, what is your long term plan? Now,
Jazz Young 19:55
get jacked. No plan, okay, yeah, yeah. I want to be, uh, big and strong but just in a smaller package. You
Philip Pape 20:03
know, it's gonna work really well for you, man, because you are a big guy with a ton of muscle who's super strong. So I bet there's a lot under there to, like, really reveal it to people. No, I'm just trying to reveal it. Yeah, we're skinny guys like me. We never quite pushed it that hard to get up there. It's like, up and down type of thing.
Jazz Young 20:18
So do you think that sounds good? Okay, yeah, I think it sounds good. And focusing in after the competition is definitely gonna be the best thing for me, because I don't plan on competing for a while after that, so I have all of the winner. And you know, to focus on getting down to the next bodyweight goal
Philip Pape 20:41
for sure, man. And you know how to reach me for that, we definitely should talk and map it out for you, because I think it achieved some great things, man, for sure.
Jazz Young 20:48
Yeah, I think so too, yeah. I think so too,
Philip Pape 20:51
yeah. All right. So I mean, I mean, there you go. That's, I know we went a little longer than 15 minutes, but I helped you get through the mental roadblock of between two different goals, right?
Jazz Young 21:00
Yes, yes, definitely. Like I said, sometimes I had it in the back of my head, like, maybe you should just change the goal to something like 290 or something like that. But sometimes we need somebody else to tell us, hey, you should do this. Well, I was thinking that so
Philip Pape 21:16
exactly, and I would just think of it as like, one quick goal. You get done. Now you're back to your main goal, and you get that done, and you're good
Jazz Young 21:24
seeing what you did with Jeremy and how he did it in phases. Oh, yeah. Jerry. Bonanno, yeah, Jerry, I said, Jeremy. Jerry, sorry,
Philip Pape 21:31
I've done that to him too. Yeah. Sorry, sorry, Jerry, sorry, Jerry, but yeah, I've
Jazz Young 21:36
done that. And I'm like, oh, can do this, do the competition, still hit my goal on some of the lifts that I want to hit, and then focus on the next phase after that. Awesome,
Philip Pape 21:49
man. Well, get it done and reach out to me if you have any questions along the way. Like, like I said, this is just to help people and see the how it kind of changes perspective, and it's gonna be a lot of fun.
Jazz Young 22:01
Yeah, yeah. I'm looking forward to it. I'm excited.
Philip Pape 22:04
I hope you enjoyed that conversation with jazz to us a recording of a 15 minute rapid nutrition assessment. These are free calls that I give all the time. I always have a few spots every week in my calendar. I encourage you, if you are looking for a little bit of assistance, to uncover the one thing that is holding you back and come up with a quick three step action plan, get results in the next 90 days ahead, and use the link in my show notes to schedule that with me. Won't bite, as you could tell from today's call. I just ask you some questions. We figure it out together. They give you some actions. I don't sell anything. I don't even mention my coaching, and you leave with a little bit of of clarity, actually, a lot of clarity and some next steps to take. And then from that, you can always go further and talk about specific resources and actions you can take to put those to the next level. So, if you want to schedule that free 15 minute rapid nutrition assessment, use the link in my show notes, or go to witsweets.com, click the top right, and I will talk to you next time here on the wits, and waits podcast.
